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It's no secret that the Titans really don't have a prototypical #1 WR on their roster.....probably nobody who will rack up 1300 yards receiving.  Not this year, at least.

However, looking over the current roster, I see several players who could easily land in the 400-600 yard range or better.   In fact, from what we've seen thus far, I think it's entirely possible that we could end up with four or five guys with 400+ yards receiving....possibly even six, if one of the rookies steps up.

That may not sound too impressive at first, but consider this:  last year, the Jaguars were hardly known as a dominant passing team, but they did an excellent job of distributing the ball....four WR's with 400+ yards receiving.  In fact, only two teams did a better job of spreading it around....the Eagles and Chargers,  both of whom had five 400-yard receivers.

Here's the real kicker:  all three teams ranked in the league's top ten offenses (Eagles #2, Chargers #4, Jags #10)....and none of them had a 1000-yard receiver, or even a prototypical #1-type WR.

So what on earth makes me think the Titans could potentially match this feat?

Simple:  While most QB's rely heavily on two or three guys for the bulk of their production,  Vince Young has demonstrated a remarkable knack for spreading the ball around.   Even when he was struggling badly, he still found a way to get everyone involved in the gameplan.

Looking back over the games from this year, I was struck by the sheer number of receivers who caught passes in each game.   In a typical game, Vince would hit six different receivers, sometimes seven...never less than five.  What makes this truly remarkable is the fact that he rarely had  20 completions in a game, but the completions were almost always distributed throughout the entire group of receivers.  

The most remarkable example was the week 13 matchup against the Colts....with only 15 completions on the day, Vince completed passes to ten different receivers.  Crazy.

What this tells me is this:  Vince doesn't play favorites.  He doesn't have it set in his mind where he's going with the ball or who he's throwing it to.  He scans the defense, reads the coverage, and then finds the open guy, or the guy who's in single coverage.

Vince's reads and decision making improved drastically over the course of his rookie season.  After his poor outings against the Jags and Eagles, we rarely saw him throw an ill-advised pass, or trying to force a ball into coverage.  It doesn't matter whether it's Brandon Jones on nine route, Bo Scaife on a curl, or Ahmard Hall in the flat....Vince will happily take whatever the defense gives him, and keep the chains moving.  And if the defense gives him nothing, or everyone is covered....he'll just move the chains himself.

Vince may never be a prolific passer like Manning, Palmer, or Brees....but then, he really doesn't have to be.  Over the latter part of the season, he was starting to put up 200-yard performances with some consistency.  Respectable, but hardly eye-popping.  However, if he can continue that trend over a 16-game schedule, he'll be on track to have 3200 yards passing.....an impressive total, no matter how you slice it.  

(Interesting fact:  In the last 8 games of his rookie year, VY had 1437 yards passing;  projected over a full year, that's 2874 yards, which would have been good enough for #17 in the league....just ahead of Jake Delhomme, and just behind Alex Smith, Tony Romo, and Steve McNair.)

Yep....I think things are gonna work out just fine.

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Good stuff nine!

I agree. He will be dangerous once he learns how to be more consistent with his footwork.

He has all the football smarts he needs.

Takes what the defense gives him.

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Originally Posted by nine

It's no secret that the Titans really don't have a prototypical #1 WR on their roster.....probably nobody who will rack up 1300 yards receiving. Not this year, at least.


1300 yards? That is quite a benchmark. Most WRs never get that many yards. Only 4 WRs in the league got past 1300 yards last year. Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Waynes, and Roy Williams. Only the best of the best get near that mark on a consistent basis.

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However, looking over the current roster, I see several players who could easily land in the 400-600 yard range or better. In fact, from what we've seen thus far, I think it's entirely possible that we could end up with four or five guys with 400+ yards receiving....possibly even six, if one of the rookies steps up.

That may not sound too impressive at first, but consider this: last year, the Jaguars were hardly known as a dominant passing team, but they did an excellent good job of distributing the ball....four WR's with 400+ yards receiving. Only two teams did a better job of spreading it around....the Eagles and Chargers, both of whom had five 400-yard receivers.

I agree that it may not sound impressive, but it would be a very good thing for our team because you cannot focus on shutting down just one or two players as in most offenses.

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Vince's reads and decision making improved noticeably over the course of the season. After his poor outing against the Eagles, we rarely saw him throw an ill-advised pass, or trying to force a ball into coverage. It doesn't matter whether it's Brandon Jones on nine route or Ahmard Hall in the flat....Vince will happily take whatever the defense gives him, and keep the chains moving. And if the defense gives him nothing, or everyone is covered....he'll just move the chains himself.


I think this makes it obvious the influence that Chow has on Young.
This has been his MO ever since he became an Offensive Coordinator. That is to spread the ball around to which mismatch is open.

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Vince may never be a prolific passer like Manning, Palmer, or Brees....but then, he really doesn't have to be. Over the latter part of the season, he was starting to put up 200-yard performances with some consistency. Respectable, but hardly eye-popping. However, if he can continue that trend over a 16-game schedule, he'll be on track to have 3200 yards passing.....an impressive total, no matter how you slice it.

(Interesting fact: In the last 8 games of his rookie year, VY had 1437 yards passing; projected over a full year, that's 2874 yards, which would have been good enough for #17 in the league....just ahead of Jake Delhomme, and just behind Alex Smith, Tony Romo, and Steve McNair.)

Yep....I think things are gonna work out just fine.



So extrapolated over a full season he is an average passer last year is basically what that says. Last year he was about average. He would have been better if our WRs could have caught the ball more regularly instead of dropping the easy catches.
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I agree with most of what you said but I do have to say the Jags and Chargers were in the top ten because of their extraordinary running games. Also a big arguement can be made that the lack of a dominant no 1. receiver type on both of those teams kept them from realizing thier full potential. The Jags got too excited about huge WR's and have too many. If you watch them they really fail to get seperation. A young Jimmy Smith would have made a huge difference to that team last year.(they blew it taking Jones over Clayton by the way). I agree a team doesn't have to have an absolute stud at receiver but if your ready for the next step-Superbowl-you should try to procure one.

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The thing is, if Young was average over the latter part of last season as a rookie, then this year he could easily be above average. At worst, he should be able to stay average. When you throw in his feet and how he opens up the defense a bit for our RBs, that's good enough. My main fear is the sophomore slump, but I don't expect that from Vince. He works so hard and is very coachable and confident. This thing he's doing in Houston will keep him in the groove too.

I know the 'I'm a realist because I always think the worst' posters will nail me for this, but I think we have a real shot at the playoffs this season.
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The thing is, if Young was average over the latter part of last season as a rookie, then this year he could easily be above average. At worst, he should be able to stay average. When you throw in his feet and how he opens up the defense a bit for our RBs, that's good enough. My main fear is the sophomore slump, but I don't expect that from Vince. He works so hard and is very coachable and confident. This thing he's doing in Houston will keep him in the groove too.

I know the 'I'm a realist because I always think the worst' posters will nail me for this, but I think we have a real shot at the playoffs this season.
I think because of Vince Young we have a shot at the playoffs. Two things have to happen. White, Henry or both have to be very good, and the defensive line has to show great improvement. That's it.I doubt both those will happen but if they do we can go places.

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Good post, nine. If Young can spread the ball around, we will have an offense that will be difficult to defend. Guys like Scaife and Troupe coming off the line of scrimmage will occupy LBs. There will be a lot of single coverage, then factor in Young's running threat and that will freeze some Dbacks as well. It's all about moving the chains. Vince may never have Marino or Elway numbers but he doesn't have to. The running game is the key the way I see it.


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Originally Posted by Bulluckfan
The thing is, if Young was average over the latter part of last season as a rookie, then this year he could easily be above average. At worst, he should be able to stay average. When you throw in his feet and how he opens up the defense a bit for our RBs, that's good enough. My main fear is the sophomore slump, but I don't expect that from Vince. He works so hard and is very coachable and confident. This thing he's doing in Houston will keep him in the groove too.

I know the 'I'm a realist because I always think the worst' posters will nail me for this, but I think we have a real shot at the playoffs this season.
I think because of Vince Young we have a shot at the playoffs. Two things have to happen. White, Henry or both have to be very good, and the defensive line has to show great improvement. That's it.I doubt both those will happen but if they do we can go places.


That's always the formula. Stop the run and run the ball....

Especially when you have a young QB and since he is so mobile he's going to help our team to be in the top 5 rushing quite a few times over the course of his career.
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another factor we often forget is that we have barely seen Chow's offense ..
year 1 McNair could not hide his disinterest, and would not even work out with the young receivers.. IMO I don't think he ever knew the playbook, besides the FACT that Mcnair was a reactive QB that threw to the open man after he got open.. he rarely knew where the ball was to go before the play

year 2 Collins/ VY barely understood the system until the final 8 games or so when things started to click..VY has to not only learn how to be an NFL qb, but also a leader, and a begins to anticipate what will be open against certain defenses.. the O-line solidifies when Pillar goes down, and Bell goes to LG and Stewart to RT.. the running game becomes a major threat on every down..

year 3 ??? I'll bet Vy has figured out who has the best matchup on most plays and distributes the ball to all receivers.... the o-line gets recognition, the running game is a threat on every down ..an above average offense say 12 to 17 ..
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Originally Posted by Bulluckfan
The thing is, if Young was average over the latter part of last season as a rookie, then this year he could easily be above average. At worst, he should be able to stay average. When you throw in his feet and how he opens up the defense a bit for our RBs, that's good enough. My main fear is the sophomore slump, but I don't expect that from Vince. He works so hard and is very coachable and confident. This thing he's doing in Houston will keep him in the groove too.

I know the 'I'm a realist because I always think the worst' posters will nail me for this, but I think we have a real shot at the playoffs this season.
I think because of Vince Young we have a shot at the playoffs. Two things have to happen. White, Henry or both have to be very good, and the defensive line has to show great improvement. That's it.I doubt both those will happen but if they do we can go places.
I think both those things will happen. D line will be much improved, AH will be a pro bowler. Both running backs will be productive, Henry will be rookie of the year!
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Finally a thread where everyone is positive and can see the potential the Titans have as a TEAM. I have always thought you should look at the positives before you look at the negatives.If you ask me, our receiving core looks a lot like the Patriots when they were winning 3 out of 4 Super Bowls. Did they have one dominating receiver who Brady would go to all of the time? No.He would spread the ball around, hit whoever was open.Hey sounds good to me.

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Givens and Branch also were young WRs that hadn't produced too much either.

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